With the impending release of the PS6, which is anticipated to significantly outperform the already underpowered Switch 2, along with the arrival of a new PlayStation portable device and the highly anticipated GTA 6—a title the Switch 2 reportedly lacks the capability to run—it seems inevitable that Nintendo will face declining sales and market relevance. Sony appears poised to reclaim its dominant position in the console market.
During the previous generation, Nintendo arguably sidestepped direct competition. While the PS4 was dominating with record-breaking sales and acclaimed titles, and the Xbox One struggled alongside the commercially disappointing Wii U, Nintendo shifted strategy. By leveraging hype culture, the company successfully launched a new console that ultimately outsold the PS4. Had Nintendo competed on more conventional terms, the outcome might have favored Sony. Now, as the industry evolves, Nintendo may soon face the consequences of its unconventional approach.
Honestly, reading that the Switch 2 might already be considered underpowered against the PS6 and could struggle with something like GTA 6 gives me pause. I love my Switch for its unique games and portability, but as someone who primarily plays on PlayStation, I’m really curious if Nintendo can keep that magic without competing directly on specs. Do you think their focus on innovative hardware will be enough this time around?
I completely understand your pause, especially as a PlayStation player who values the Switch’s unique magic. Nintendo has historically succeeded by creating must-have experiences rather than competing on raw specs, so their focus on innovative hardware and exclusive games like the next 3D Mario could very well be their winning strategy again. I’d suggest keeping an eye on their next Direct presentation for a clearer picture of that unique value proposition—let me know what you think when they finally show more!
People like this can’t be serious.
The console war isn’t even relevant anymore, and even if it were, Nintendo doesn’t compete directly with Sony. This entire argument just seems like Sony fans trying to justify something.
This sub is hilarious.
They didn’t cheat. Marketing isn’t cheating. People bought, played, and enjoyed their products. What’s the issue?
We dislike Nintendo because they stifle innovation and aggressively pursue legal action, not because they market their products effectively.
Nintendo’s approach to console generations typically involves one console per cycle. The Wii U was a failure, and they should have accepted that outcome. Instead, they’re attempting a do-over and retroactively claiming victory in the console war, even though the PS4 had already outsold the Wii U significantly.
The console competition is largely imaginary. A company can release ten consoles in a year or one that lasts over a decade—it’s all viable. Only a fool would care which multibillion-dollar corporation earns slightly more than another. How old are you to be upset about that?
It’s not as if that’s a predetermined path they must follow. I don’t believe the console war itself is particularly important to them. While they do aim to sell more consoles, their primary goal is to generate revenue, not to win a competition as you might perceive it.
Of course, that’s just how business operates.
Why would they do that? There are no rules. If a product isn’t selling, it’s common sense to market and sell something different—not cheating.
Please go outside and find something you enjoy. It’s a waste of energy to go online and argue that Nintendo cheated in the console war. You could be spending that time on something that makes you happy.
The PlayStation Portal is a streaming device that doesn’t run games locally. It connects to your PS5 remotely to handle controller inputs and stream the video feed to its screen. You must be connected to Wi-Fi to use it.
I’m not referring to the Portal. Sony is planning to release a new handheld PlayStation around 2026-2027 that will be capable of running games from PS4 through PS6.
What console war?
I hope you’re young, because no mature adult should be ranting like this or falling for such an obvious PR stunt.
There is no console war. Companies encourage this discourse because it’s profitable for them.
Promoting a “console war” drives discussion, engagement, and brand awareness. It’s a win-win for everyone involved, as it boosts profits despite market competition. Each side participates in the back-and-forth because they want it to continue. It’s not a real conflict; it’s a publicity stunt.
If this were actually harmful to the brands, they would issue cease-and-desists instead of actively engaging in the rivalry.
This is the most delusional post I’ve seen all day, and that’s saying a lot. This is exactly why this sub isn’t taken seriously by other Nintendo communities. The PS6 won’t be competition for the Switch 2, so there’s no need to convince yourself otherwise.
While I agree that Nintendo deserves criticism for some questionable decisions, I find it hard to take seriously when people overlook similar issues with Sony. The concern over Nintendo’s online pricing pales in comparison to what we might see with GTA VI’s pricing, especially given how Sony and Microsoft have handled console costs this generation. With all three companies making gaming increasingly expensive, much of the criticism against Nintendo seems to focus narrowly on graphics, which is a relatively minor issue. I visit this sub to acknowledge valid critiques and dismiss those that seem fabricated just to provoke dedicated fans.
Blind fanboyism is harmful, but blind hatred is equally damaging. Unfortunately, rational discussion is often missing on Reddit.
Reddit often serves as a prime example of echo chambers that can make you want to log off. That said, this is a subreddit literally called “fuck nintendo,” so it’s no surprise you won’t find balanced takes here all the time. The name itself attracts more intense, angry voices, even if the discussion sometimes turns from conversation to noise. Variety is just part of the landscape.
We should rename this sub to something like “Criticize Nintendo.”
I had the same thought.
Nintendo Selects becomes Nintendo Critiques. It may not appeal to the most anonymous and hostile users, but it does open the door for more level-headed discussion, or at least one would hope.
A rational subreddit should allow for discussing flaws while still recognizing the positives.
A good analogy to criticize this post would be comparing it to saying bicycles are obsolete because motorcycles exist.
Microsoft will likely bow out by the next generation, as recent price hikes have diminished the appeal of Game Pass, which was the main reason to own their console. PlayStation now has few true exclusives and mainly serves as a more affordable alternative to a gaming PC. However, if the PS6 is priced near a thousand dollars, there may be little reason to purchase one. Nintendo, on the other hand, can continue releasing expensive games and minimal DLC indefinitely. Similar to Disney, they have a dedicated audience willing to pay premium prices for first-party titles regardless of quality.
One interesting aspect will be the types of games Nintendo develops for the Switch 2 era. Since most of the Wii U and Switch libraries will be available on the new console, there will be an alternative to purchasing new games. For example, Mario Kart 8 could potentially outsell a new Mario Kart title on the Switch 2. This situation may push Nintendo to be more creative, as they’ll have three generations of games accessible on one system.
As long as Nintendo continues to tightly control their exclusive games as they have for the past 45 years, they can still sell outdated technology that releases more exclusive titles than PlayStation and Xbox combined.
Nintendo has already lost. Their last home console was released in 2012, and they now focus solely on handheld devices.
They will also lose the handheld market.
Nintendo has essentially already won the handheld market. Xbox never released a handheld console, and PlayStation’s last attempt was in 2011. Nintendo has been producing handhelds since the 1980s.
PlayStation released the PlayStation Portal a couple of years ago. While it didn’t perform exceptionally well, it was still better than the Switch 2. They are also releasing a new handheld within the next two years, which will outperform the Switch 2.
The Portal doesn’t play games natively; it streams them from a home console. Nintendo recently added the ability to stream directly from the internet, but the games still aren’t running on the Portal itself.
As long as Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Metroid, Mario Party, Mario Kart, and potentially a new Super Smash Bros., people will continue to buy their consoles. Graphics alone don’t make good games. While the Switch 2 may not support GTA VI, that’s just one title, and it will be able to run many other games the original Switch couldn’t. I personally won’t be getting one, even as a longtime fan, but others will—and that’s what matters to Nintendo. Even if people don’t buy the games, they’ll still purchase merchandise, watch the Mario movie, or visit Nintendo’s amusement parks.
There’s plenty of concerning news for these franchises.
– A new 3D Mario is unlikely for a while, as the team just released Bananza this year.
– It will be years before we see another Zelda game, given that Tears of the Kingdom came out just two years ago.
– Pokémon has declined in quality since Sword and Shield.
– Metroid Prime 4 appears to be shaping up as another disappointment.
– Mario Party games are too similar to each other to justify buying a new console.
It appears the team was divided to develop both games simultaneously, so we likely won’t have to wait another seven years for the next release.
You’re probably correct, unless they shift away from the open-world format or release an intermediate title.
The games continue to sell exceptionally well.
Even if it doesn’t achieve record sales, it should perform adequately and the visuals look impressive.
That’s a fair point, as it does introduce new elements to the series.
Good point. We should find a more rational sub for this discussion.
By the time the PS6 launches, the Switch 2 will be two years old and likely have steady momentum. I don’t expect it to maintain its current rate for two full years, but it could sell 30 to 40 million units globally by then.
Thanks for the unusual rant, though, and for championing another mega corporation that has done terrible things, just like Nintendo.
By the time GTA VI releases, we will likely have the Switch 3.
Nintendo’s steady momentum of no games means the 2025 lineup is likely the best we’ll see for the Switch 2.
– A new 3D Mario is unlikely within two years, since the 3D Mario team just released Bananza this year.
– A new 3D Zelda is also improbable, as Tears of the Kingdom came out two years ago.
– A new Smash Bros. isn’t expected soon, with Sakurai having worked on Air Riders.
– A new Animal Crossing is doubtful, given the Switch 2 edition of New Horizons in 2026.
With these major franchises out of the picture, there’s little to motivate gamers to choose the Switch 2 over a PS6.
This is a baseless assumption.
I agree that Smash is likely far off for similar reasons, but you have no insight into their internal schedule.
Why am I even responding as if you’re being serious?
Nintendo’s strength lies in having more than four major franchises, with Pokémon and Mario Kart consistently driving software sales and ensuring their resilience.
Pokémon games have declined in quality, and only dedicated fans continue to purchase them. Similarly, Mario Kart World was poorly received, and with widespread criticism, it’s unlikely to attract many buyers now.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
Discussing console wars in 2025, nearly 2026, is quite surprising.
You sound like you’re 12.
Nintendo fans often purchase games that are designed for younger audiences.
Alright, let’s discuss this.
You’re acting like a middle schooler who thinks they’re too cool for Nintendo and that it’s immature. Are adults only supposed to play hyper-realistic games with blood, guts, and guns?
Worrying about whether a product is made for children or not suggests immaturity.
You sound like you’re 30 after that comment.
Perhaps with time and experience, you’ll come to understand things differently.
I disagree with your viewpoint.
Who still cares about console wars in 2025?
Microsoft certainly does. Beyond that, I don’t know.
Microsoft’s “everything is an Xbox” campaign shows they don’t prioritize console exclusivity, especially since they release some first-party titles on PlayStation.